The denaturation of the ‘Chiron Last discussion group’ on telegram

Some weeks ago I’ve been kicked out of a Chiron Last dedicated group on telegram. I joined this group a year or so ago, and for around 6 months I haven’t said that much, just observed the conversations and discussions going on there, some of which I found quite interesting.

Still, since the beginning of 2025 an influx of new age information, spiritually relativistic ideas and other philosophies heavily at odds with Chiron’s original teachings, and more recently even AI generated texts started being promulgated on that group. I’ve made the courage to speak against some of these things, genuinely alarmed and concerned that some of these ideas could take people into a wrong direction, but not without obvious consequences.

And here is my main concern and why I decided to write this post today.

I feel that anybody should be allowed to create a group in which they can express and explore their views and opinions, along with others that share in the same interest. But when you create a group with the name and image of a certain creator, teacher or subject, you have a responsibility to preserve the authenticity and faithfulness of their ideas.

How would it be, for example, if I create a group with the name of Krishnamurti and then I start populating that group with political propaganda, the “law of attraction”, or “10 ways to build financial freedom”? What would that group look like for someone freshly coming to it, with a genuine interest to study Krishnamurti’s work and maybe connect with others that share the same interest? Would that create a sense of confusion or maybe disorientation? What about then having some of the members in that group trying to convince you how the law of attraction actually fits very well with the teachings of Krishnamurti? Would that be able to confuse you even more, stir your time and energy away, trying to fit together some ideas that, in all actuality, never fit?

What would these type of actions say about the owner of such group or the other members propagating such disparate, even opposing ideas, philosophies and topics?

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How is it to see a group with the name and image of Chiron Last, where new age ideas were promulgated, to the point of having some people’s genuine and vulnerable posts, sharing their struggles with how life was going, being muffled with apparently inspirational quotes of “show love and gratitude and everything will work itself out”, “everything is energy, you can either be in love or in fear”, or “you manifest what you are, you just have to vibe higher”. When these ideas are foundationally shallow and Chiron firmly spoke against the new age movement, advising us instead to find the heart, go within and listen in silence.

How is to find a group where spiritually and morally relativistic ideas of the genre “you are god in physical form, there is no good and evil, you project what you believe” were being pinged, since all throughout Chiron’s work a thorough exposition of the pervasive force of evil that affects this world has been extensively discussed?

How is it, more recently, to see walls of copy-pasted AI generated texts infiltrating the group, posed as evidence for objective, factual truth by the very owner of the group? When Chiron extensively described what this AI is – the force of death itself which consumes and eats the very essence of Life.

How is it to see even some members proclaiming that Chiron Last was given too much credit? Or seeing other ideas and teachings being promoted, as for example, Mark Passio’s material and his notion of natural law, deemed as going hand in hand with Chiron’s work, and hailed as part of the new direction for the group? And then the very owner demanding that anybody that does not agree with this direction leave the group, all while vowing for unity and coming together.

How is it to try to thoughtfully and respectfully express one’s genuine concerns about the corrupted nature of the AI and about the group becoming a salad of spiritually relativistic opinions, only to then having the owner remove you abruptly from the group, while preaching it does it to obtain “a unified song” in the group?

In my opinion, the ‘Chiron Last discussion group’ on telegram has been highly denatured and I hardly think this group is going to come around, unless some exceptional change.

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Why I decided to write this post is that too many times in history, the most valuable and sacred teachings ended up destroyed and corrupted by the very same people, groups or organisations that sworn to value and protect them. Too many times the ones which declare they love a thing, intentionally or not, consciously or not, end up perverting and destroying that thing.

What would happen if new people would find this group, which bares the name and even logo of Chiron Last, only to see a group filled with new age teachings, spiritually shallow and morally relativistic ideas, and now walls of generated AI texts, all mingled with screenshots from Chiron Last’s videos and on going talks about the heart?

Would it be easy for some individuals to become confused, even lost perhaps, their journey halted or stagnated, for less or more time?

In a world where this AI is astoundingly pushed and almost forced upon us from so many directions, being psychologically coerced into using it, how is to find it promoted.. even in a group that should have acted like a sanctuary of sanity, safety, offering a true home, direction and guidance to the one’s which might so deeply need it, at this moment?

These are my true concerns for why I decided to write this post.

I believe some things are holy in life, and when we encounter the sacred, the pure and the holy… each of us has a duty to work to protect it, even with our own lives. I believe this world has become the chaos of non-sense and morbidity it currently is, the Earth brought to its knees and our souls screaming within us, because each of us might have failed, at some point, to stand up and defend that which is the most precious in life.

I wish the behaviour displayed by some of the members in the CL group was done out of a mistaken or erroneous apprehension of Chiron’s work, and not out of a deliberate intention to distort and corrupt them. I wish a correction of these ways be formally issued.

Otherwise I believe there are indeed consequences for utilising the name and image of a certain creator and perhaps pulling others onto a path which that being might not have intended, and even more… a path that might ultimately prove detrimental to their soul. When we deal with ultimate topics, like the true nature of spirituality and the destiny of our human soul, the outermost care should be employed, and never personal desires, objectives and visions should be allowed to reign or dictate one’s reason and behaviour, lest one is also prepared to account for ultimate consequences.